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Johnny Depp Jeff Beck Sue the Folklorist Who Accused Them of Stealing an Incarcerated Man' s Poem
10/22/2022 6:00:00 PM
T his is like a burglar suing a homeowner because he cut his hand on the kitchen window he broke getting in says Bruce Jackson
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Johnny Depp and Jeff Beck have filed a lawsuit against the folklorist who accused the pair of stealing the lyrics for their song 'Sad Motherfuckin' Parade'
T his is like a burglar suing a homeowner because he cut his hand on the kitchen window he broke getting in says Bruce Jackson
Depp and Beck’s argument appears to hinge on the gray area between the unknown origins and authorship of “Hobo Ben,” and the copyrights that Jackson does own for his transcriptions and recording of the toast. Depp and Beck claim this means Jackson “owns no copyrights in the words” to “Hobo Ben,” and that the “copying of the toast into his book and subsequent recordings did not create any copyrights in those words.”
, Jackson replied, “They didn’t write a word of ‘Sad Motherfuckin’ Parade’ and they are suing the person they stole it from and who caught them doing it.
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” But a couple months later, it seems the pair are less interested giving credit than suing Jackson for unspecified damages, attorneys fees, and a declaration that they have not committed copyright infringement.  Depp and Beck’s argument appears to hinge on the gray area between the unknown origins and authorship of “Hobo Ben,” and the copyrights that Jackson does own for his transcriptions and recording of the toast. The Rangers officially hired Bochy on Friday, about three years and a month after his last game with the Giants. Depp and Beck claim this means Jackson “owns no copyrights in the words” to “Hobo Ben,” and that the “copying of the toast into his book and subsequent recordings did not create any copyrights in those words.
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The Rangers finished 68-94, fourth place in the American League West.”  In a statement shared with Rolling Stone , Jackson replied, “They didn’t write a word of ‘Sad Motherfuckin’ Parade’ and they are suing the person they stole it from and who caught them doing it. "If I was going to return to managing, it had to be the right situation," Bochy, 67, said in a press release. From my point of view, this is like a burglar suing a homeowner because he cut his hand on the kitchen window he broke getting in.
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He has spent the past three seasons as a Special Advisor for San Francisco. ” (Jackson also noted that the first he learned of the suit was an article on and stated that, as of Saturday morning, Oct." The Giants have not yet responded to The Examiner's request for comment, which was sent shortly after this article was published.” Bochy, 67, signed a three-year deal through the 2025 season. 22, he still has not been officially served.) Jackson also noted that he first learned of the suit through a TMZ article and still has not been officially served.
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Congrats, Boch 👏 Best of luck in Texas! pic.  Lawyers Rachel and Michael Jackson (who are Jackson’s children) also rebuffed the lawsuit as “a bald attempt to distract the public’s attention away from their repeated attempts to claim authorship for a song that they did not write.” Their statement continues: “The hypocrisy runs deep with these two.com/p6GwNf96Xt — SFGiants (@SFGiants) October 21, 2022San Francisco hired Bochy in 2006, after he managed the division rival San Diego Padres for the preceding 12 seasons.
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Bochy, a former catcher, also played nine seasons in the majors for Houston, San Diego and the New York Mets. On the one hand, they claim that Professor Jackson cannot have a copyright interest in the song ‘Sad Motherfuckin’ Parade’ because it is a ‘toast’ or poem with uncertain authorship that was freely passed and shared within the African-American community — which Depp and Beck fully know is false. On the other hand, they repeatedly claimed authorship of this same song — first on the digital release of 18 , and, later, on the vinyl release of 18 .
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The Giants nearly made the playoffs in Bochy's third season in 2009, during which San Francisco won 88 games. “How do they explain this?
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They don’t. Instead, they filed a lawsuit against the person who exposed their apparent misappropriation of this African American work in the song ‘Sad Motherfuckin’ Parade.
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So began San Francisco's dynasty, with the Giants adding two more World Series rings in 2012 and '14, respectively.’” According to Depp and Beck’s suit, Jackson sent the pair letters back in August alleging that that “nearly every single word” in “Sad Motherfuckin’ Parade” is “copied from ‘Hobo Ben’ including the title.m. ” There were also suggestions that the “inflection, tonality, and rhythm” in “Sad Mothefuckin’ Parade” mirrored the recording Jackson made of Slim Wilson performing the toast in the 1960s.500 in only one of those eight seasons. Jackson’s letter reportedly even alleged that Depp and Beck didn’t just copy the lyrics to “Hobo Ben,” but may have sampled that recording “to construct portions of the vocal track” on “Sad Motherfuckin’ Parade.”  Depp and Beck’s lawsuit goes on to assert that while “there may be some elements” of “Sad Motherfuckin’ Parade” that “mirror the words” of “Hobo Ben,” “Sad Motherfuckin’ Parade” is described as “an original work of authorship and creativity.
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Yet the Giants were just 2.” Reps for Depp and Beck did not return Rolling Stone ’s request for clarification if this statement meant the pair claim they wrote the lyrics to “Sad Motherfuckin’ Parade,” and that any of the various similarities between the song and “Hobo Ben” are just a coincidence.  Meanwhile, in their statement, the Jacksons noted, “It is important to understand that Depp and Beck have not denied that the lyrics and nuance of the vocals performed on ‘Sad Motherfuckin’ Parade’ appear to have been duplicated by Depp and Beck, which they have appropriated and credited to themselves. That, at least in part, was to give Bochy a chance at a Cinderella ending with the Giants. When this story first broke, Deep and Beck issued a statement to Rolling Stone that “if appropriate, additional credits will be added to all forms of the album.” Why have they walked away from this promise?” Furthermore, Depp and Beck’s lawsuit described Jackson’s allegations as “part of an old-fashioned shakedown."But when you're right in the thick of things and you know how much of an impact he has — not just on the days he pitches, but the other four days and Boch knows he can go to his 'pen more aggressively knowing he's going to get that long start from Madison every fifth day — that had a lot to do with it.” But according to Jackson’s statement, he never made “any formal financial demands of Depp and Beck.” Instead, “He has repeatedly specified that any settlement monies would be donated directly to organizations that further his life-long commitment to preserving African American culture and traditions.
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Texas finished 68-94 last season, a disappointment after signing coveted free agent infielders Corey Seager and Marcus Semien in the offseason. Depp and Beck’s claim that this is a ‘cashgrab’ is a publicity stunt and worse, another lie. ” Jackson put it a bit more bluntly in his initial interview with Rolling Stone , saying, “I don’t know if this record is selling.
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The Giants clinched the 2010 title at Choctaw Stadium, the Rangers' former home that is just north of their current one at Globe Life Field. I’ve seen some reviews that I’d be very embarrassed to have gotten had they been my album. But if it is selling, Johnny Depp is making a lot of money on it.
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